Comments on: The Economist, mainstream media, and the geoweb meme… http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme A weblog. A website. A geospatial miscellany... Fri, 17 Feb 2012 01:25:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9 hourly 1 By: Perry R. Peterson http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme/comment-page-1#comment-375 Perry R. Peterson Sun, 21 Oct 2007 09:34:12 +0000 http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme#comment-375 Rob, We need location that is like a URL or IP address. Geographic location is almost never a high level object in a database, but almost always a low level attribute. I believe, like analog signals, conventional coordiantes reference continuous location and so can not act provide this capability. When we have a spreadsheet or tiling of multiple resolution cells representing any location, we can use these to populate attributes of location. Please read more on our web site and appreciate comments. Rob, We need location that is like a URL or IP address. Geographic location is almost never a high level object in a database, but almost always a low level attribute. I believe, like analog signals, conventional coordiantes reference continuous location and so can not act provide this capability. When we have a spreadsheet or tiling of multiple resolution cells representing any location, we can use these to populate attributes of location. Please read more on our web site and appreciate comments.

]]> By: Rob http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme/comment-page-1#comment-232 Rob Thu, 13 Sep 2007 23:47:41 +0000 http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme#comment-232 Brian \ Perry, thanks for the comments. I agree The Economist is a good read and I do appreciate its breadth of coverage, personally I find its one dimensional approach to issues a little frustrating – maybe if I didn’t read it so often it wouldn’t be a problem ;-) Yes, disappointed with the rehash, I guess I have grown to expect more. So we need more than coordinates for the geoweb? Some sort of dynamic URI for every geographic feature? Brian \ Perry, thanks for the comments. I agree The Economist is a good read and I do appreciate its breadth of coverage, personally I find its one dimensional approach to issues a little frustrating – maybe if I didn’t read it so often it wouldn’t be a problem ;-) Yes, disappointed with the rehash, I guess I have grown to expect more.

So we need more than coordinates for the geoweb? Some sort of dynamic URI for every geographic feature?

]]> By: Perry R. Peterson http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme/comment-page-1#comment-231 Perry R. Peterson Wed, 12 Sep 2007 19:09:51 +0000 http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme#comment-231 Its good to see some high level attention to the GeoWeb. Similiar to "Nature's" interest last year. We all sense there is something happening, but come away feeling somewhat disappointed. Perhaps it is that real life is still so much more...real. I think the Geospatial Web is a good thing because it puts forward a challenge to those of us who have accepted GIS as a digital way to produce maps and Google Earth as a global basemap. We have an opportunity to build something even greater! Intuitively, location should be a major framework for organizing disparate information. When we organize all the information available through the internet using location as the organizing structure then we will have the true GeoWeb. How will we know? When one can ask "What is here" and get a reply.. The Economist should surely have put forth a higher vision or at least asked, "is this it?" Dr. Charles Herring, who should go down in history as the inventive lead on the GeoWeb, postulated that in order to "Spatialization of the Internet" we need a digital indexing much more powerful than geographic coordinates. He speaks of cyber physical addressing capable of reproducing physical objects in cyber space addressing, time and location. Although this sounds a bit technical, I think we need to take a good hard look at why geospatial reference causes data complexity instead of being its key structure. Call it Digital Earth, GeoWeb or GeoInt 2.0, On-Demand Mapping - until we can stream together and interact with vastly differernt data all coelesed and organized around location, I think The Economist should call this article "Prototypes on Your Desktop" Its good to see some high level attention to the GeoWeb. Similiar to “Nature’s” interest last year. We all sense there is something happening, but come away feeling somewhat disappointed. Perhaps it is that real life is still so much more…real.

I think the Geospatial Web is a good thing because it puts forward a challenge to those of us who have accepted GIS as a digital way to produce maps and Google Earth as a global basemap. We have an opportunity to build something even greater!

Intuitively, location should be a major framework for organizing disparate information. When we organize all the information available through the internet using location as the organizing structure then we will have the true GeoWeb. How will we know? When one can ask “What is here” and get a reply..

The Economist should surely have put forth a higher vision or at least asked, “is this it?”

Dr. Charles Herring, who should go down in history as the inventive lead on the GeoWeb, postulated that in order to “Spatialization of the Internet” we need a digital indexing much more powerful than geographic coordinates. He speaks of cyber physical addressing capable of reproducing physical objects in cyber space addressing, time and location.

Although this sounds a bit technical, I think we need to take a good hard look at why geospatial reference causes data complexity instead of being its key structure. Call it Digital Earth, GeoWeb or GeoInt 2.0, On-Demand Mapping – until we can stream together and interact with vastly differernt data all coelesed and organized around location, I think The Economist should call this article “Prototypes on Your Desktop”

]]> By: Brian Flood http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme/comment-page-1#comment-230 Brian Flood Mon, 10 Sep 2007 12:15:43 +0000 http://gisconsultancy.com/blog/geoweb/the-economist-mainstream-media-and-the-geoweb-meme#comment-230 I love The Economist, I honestly think its the best magazine covering world events right now. I was excited to see the geoweb article mentioned in last week's issue but alas, it does seem like a rehash of existing information. cheers brian I love The Economist, I honestly think its the best magazine covering world events right now. I was excited to see the geoweb article mentioned in last week’s issue but alas, it does seem like a rehash of existing information.

cheers
brian

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